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Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: February 23rd, 2020, 9:58 pm
by groschopf
THESE are what I was trying to describe earlier -- the sort of handles I used to cut off my fathers tools, ironically enough for the finger grasps, not the small ribs.

This is one a replacement part for hand truck handles:

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This one is for wheelchairs:

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This is getting closer, if the ribs only went halfway around:

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For comparison, this is a tactical forend of a 12 gauge shotgun:

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And this is the prop:

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Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 23rd, 2020, 10:38 pm
by delta88
Demon Vice Commander wrote:Today I made a shotgun grip for the front handle and wrapped some gaff tape (painted green) to the rear handle. Earlier this week I installed the new strain relief connectors and added some more patina/grime to the pack.

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Would love to see how you installed the Strain Relief Connectors.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 24th, 2020, 6:21 am
by groschopf
I'm trying to source the new grip from the thrower Jason Reitman displayed at Hasbro Pulse on Saturday. Some have speculated that it's a shotgun grip -- a ribbed forend from a pump action shotgun -- which totally makes sense with the new rural location the film is being set in.

Looking at the grip, I feel that is has more in common with the rubber grips seen on cylindrical hand tools and hand trucks. A forend is pretty beefy, since it has to slide back and forth on a metal rail. A rubber grip could 1/8" thick and pull around a barrel pretty easily.

Here's a shot of the prop:

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Here's the Hasbro replica. Note the thickness of the grip from this angle:

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For comparison, this is a tactical forend of a 12 gauge shotgun:

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This is a replacement part for hand truck handles:

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This one is for wheelchairs:

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This is getting closer, if the ribs only went halfway around:

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Given the distressing of the piece -- brown where hands would hold it, black at the edges that avoid wear, dirt and grease -- it almost looks like a piece of leather. But the ribs look molded, and they don't look deep enough to be the ribs from a shotgun forend.

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Anyone have some insight on what we're looking at?

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 24th, 2020, 6:29 am
by RedSpecial
Jason mentioned himself during the panel that it was wooden.
I think the best bet is still that it's a wooden shotgun grip.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 24th, 2020, 9:02 am
by McCrea
Either a shotgun grip or a pump .22 rifle.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 24th, 2020, 10:20 am
by JonXCTrack
I've been looking online and cannot find a pump handle with the same number of rings. All of the handles I am coming across have 14 or 18 rings. The handle on the wand appears to have 24.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: February 24th, 2020, 10:22 am
by JonXCTrack
groschopf wrote: February 23rd, 2020, 10:09 am ... the more I look at the pics of the wand, the less I think that's a wooden rifle grip. A wooden grip would be too thick -- and the distressing suggests a coating was worn off to a brownish coating. The areas furthest from where hands would grip it are still black. I suppose you could get that effect with painted wood, but the thickness and pop rivets hang me up.

It's not the pool tool grip I showed above, but I feel like it's something akin to it -- a piece of 1/8" thick rubber with grooves molded onto one side.

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I agree. I think they are grips like these, but painted brown: https://www.grainger.com/product/46J866 ... 1842759159!

I think they want the audience to believe it's a shotgun pump handle (given the setting of the movie), but used rubber grips in real life.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 24th, 2020, 10:49 am
by obiwanjabroni
Looks like it could be a modified Ithaca pump grip.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 24th, 2020, 12:59 pm
by Dr.D
I think the rivets are an addition to the grip.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 24th, 2020, 3:17 pm
by groschopf
I'm still of the mind that the grooves appear more molded than the deep lines one would see routed into a wooden forended and pressed into a synthetic.

I think JonXCTrack is on the bubble -- it's meant to look like a shotgun part, but isn't. Could just be custom.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 24th, 2020, 3:30 pm
by mrmichaelt
Well in theory the person to ask would be Ben Eadie, the prop master.
https://twitter.com/beneadie

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 24th, 2020, 7:11 pm
by Ectotainment
Not sure of you watched the Hasboro Pulse live stream, but during the segment with the real prop, Jason Reitman, says it's a wooden handle.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 25th, 2020, 4:06 pm
by jonogunn
why did Mattel call the wand "Neutrino" while Hasbros called it "Neutrona"?

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 25th, 2020, 5:10 pm
by Michael Scott
Because Mattel half-assed everything and Hasbro did their homework.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 25th, 2020, 11:01 pm
by ccv66
I think I remember hearing Matty was told by Sony what they were allowed to call it. Mattel Was aware of the name difference, I got the impression it was a Sony hoop they had to jump threw then them not caring. anovos had to call their pack the Spengler pack even though Harold ramis never wore it.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 26th, 2020, 12:09 pm
by Kodee-Wan
Someone in a German Ghostbusters Facebook Group made a replica and it looks spot on. It even has the same amount of ribs the grip.

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=129 ... 9873816209

**Update** A user from the group says the grip they used in their replica is a 3d print designed from Shapeforge Props.

https://www.facebook.com/Shapeforge

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 26th, 2020, 12:24 pm
by Kodee-Wan
mrmichaelt wrote: February 24th, 2020, 3:30 pm Well in theory the person to ask would be Ben Eadie, the prop master.
https://twitter.com/beneadie

I reached out to Ben. Unfortunately, and understandably, he is not allowed to discuss any questions about the film.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 26th, 2020, 1:51 pm
by RedSpecial
Not surprising.
NDA's are a huge bitch to deal with.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 26th, 2020, 1:52 pm
by Corey91
So I pre-ordered the Hasbro wand with intentions of using that on my pack build that I am just starting out on. Figured it would save time, money, and would be cool to have something from all three movies on one pack.

However, the more I research and look into it, i'm thinking it may be a bad idea to do so since it would not coincide with the sound board and lights on the pack - I love the way both work in tandem and I would lose that if I use the Hasbro wand. Now, my idea is to use the wand on the pack for Halloween and then use parts from the Hasbro one to make my own. I know this question is impossible to answer before anyone gets their hands on one, but: does anyone think it's possible to use electronics from both the hasbro wand and the normal electronics for a built wand? I love the way the stream looks on the hasbro wand but would want it to work in tandem with one that is built with the rest of the pack (I have no electrical knowledge/background)

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Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 26th, 2020, 4:00 pm
by ccv66
So anything with a speaker you can jump the wires and send it to an amp. Before doug made the Matty board, old butthead Bob was cracking the wands open and wiring it to a speaker on the pack. The Matty board does have both the aux for music and wand. So you could have one pack that you could switch Matty and Hasbro wands on the fly, however you wont have the lights interact with the Hasbro wand. Should just cycle as normal

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 26th, 2020, 4:59 pm
by AJ Quick
If anything, the very talented Spongeface may design a pack sound board that interfaces with the Hasbro wand like he did with the Mattel one.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: February 26th, 2020, 5:53 pm
by Corey91
Thanks for responses! Maybe it won't be as difficult as I thought. Literally just got the mobo today so I luckily have months if not a year until I get to that part! :walterpeck:

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: March 9th, 2020, 12:28 pm
by TheLegendOfMart
Kodee-Wan wrote: February 26th, 2020, 12:09 pm Someone in a German Ghostbusters Facebook Group made a replica and it looks spot on. It even has the same amount of ribs the grip.

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=129 ... 9873816209

**Update** A user from the group says the grip they used in their replica is a 3d print designed from Shapeforge Props.

https://www.facebook.com/Shapeforge
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4179246

I made the grip as a guestimation from the Hasbro stream and the Hasbro Pulse Site. It's probably not accurate but its something to use until the part is found.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4185379

I also did the Hasbro wand stand too.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: April 18th, 2020, 2:21 pm
by Austin
Haven't seen it mentioned, but I'm 99.9% sure the ALICE straps on Phoebe's pack are Rothco. Looks like the gunner seat straps are as well, albeit modified.

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Rothco straps are very thin, which her's appear to be. But the biggest tell is the very prominent crease down the center of the backside caused by the stictching. This is something I've only ever seen on Rotcho straps. Genuine military issue LC2 straps lack this crease since they're constructed a bit differently. There also appears to be no information stamped on the backs on her straps. Something most military issued ones have.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: April 18th, 2020, 9:06 pm
by Kingpin
Looks like it, and makes sense. The genuine article are becoming rarer and rarer with each passing year as more stock is bought up by Ghostheads.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: June 18th, 2020, 10:04 pm
by Austin
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Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: June 26th, 2020, 10:17 am
by SPJ
back wrote: December 13th, 2019, 8:27 am
groschopf wrote: December 12th, 2019, 3:21 pm Is Paul Rudd trying to use a car to jumpstart the ghost trap or the other way around?

Looks like he's grounded a set of jumper cables on the trap handle and hooked the hot clamp to the pedal cord port.

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Boosting your car with a Ghost Trap or Charging said Trap with your car? Result is something like this:
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I wish I could like this TWICE

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: August 1st, 2020, 9:28 pm
by 33rdparanormal
Maybe the angles are playing tricks on me... or my eyes are... but it looks like there is no spacer for the top of the pack on either the pack on the table, or the one worn. The spacers are obviously on the bottom, but the frame appears to meet up with the motherboard where the top spacer should be. And thinking about it from a logical standpoint, that would probably help with weight distribution. It would put the top of the pack closer to your head, but might help with the weight a little bit.

Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: August 3rd, 2020, 7:23 pm
by Austin
33rdparanormal wrote: August 1st, 2020, 9:28 pm Maybe the angles are playing tricks on me... or my eyes are... but it looks like there is no spacer for the top of the pack on either the pack on the table, or the one worn. The spacers are obviously on the bottom, but the frame appears to meet up with the motherboard where the top spacer should be. And thinking about it from a logical standpoint, that would probably help with weight distribution. It would put the top of the pack closer to your head, but might help with the weight a little bit.
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Re: 2020 Proton Pack and Props - Clips from the trailers

Posted: August 3rd, 2020, 8:45 pm
by c.fago
Austin what's happened to your Afterlife pack build thread? I was following it with great interest. You did a beautiful job and your pics where fantastic too!