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Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 16th, 2021, 1:27 pm
by RichardLess
Opening the film with Egon would be a mistake. You’d be opening a comedy with a real downer. “Hey here’s the dead ghostbuster that won’t be in 90% of this movie brought back to life with iffy probably janky CGI”

I think a great opening would be for some event happening in Summerville. Some scary event. Teenagers making out near the mine and shit goes down. It’s a local spot for make out parties. It goes badly. Cut to far away. Ray Stanz(whose face we maybe don’t see) is busy tinkering with something in his bookstore. Suddenly we hear a familiar sound. He hears it too. He slowly walks towards an old desk, opens the drawer and peeks inside. We see his face for the first time now. An expression of excitement and almost sadness appears across his face. He picks up the device inside the drawer. It’s a PKe meter and it’s going batshit off the charts. And then it dies(symbolism). No readings. No nothing.

Ray reluctantly puts the PKE meter back inside the drawer(more symbolism). He starts to walk away, resigned to the fact that this may have been a malfunction or blip, but then we hear the noise again, cut to Ray as a big smile comes across his face. We hear the familiar opening to the Ghostbusters theme song…as the paranormal enters the world once again.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 16th, 2021, 2:01 pm
by JonXCTrack
I still think the opening beat will be in the past, with the miners that built the temple. Some sort of paranormal event will happen and we'll left to assume that is how the miners perished. A monument will be built in their honor, which will pop up in the film later on.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 16th, 2021, 2:10 pm
by Alphagaia
What if the house is a sort of precursor for the building of NY? Build with weird metals and such?

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 16th, 2021, 2:39 pm
by Davideverona
RichardLess wrote: September 16th, 2021, 1:27 pm Opening the film with Egon would be a mistake. You’d be opening a comedy with a real downer. “Hey here’s the dead ghostbuster that won’t be in 90% of this movie brought back to life with iffy probably janky CGI”

I think a great opening would be for some event happening in Summerville. Some scary event. Teenagers making out near the mine and shit goes down. It’s a local spot for make out parties. It goes badly. Cut to far away. Ray Stanz(whose face we maybe don’t see) is busy tinkering with something in his bookstore. Suddenly we hear a familiar sound. He hears it too. He slowly walks towards an old desk, opens the drawer and peeks inside. We see his face for the first time now. An expression of excitement and almost sadness appears across his face. He picks up the device inside the drawer. It’s a PKe meter and it’s going batshit off the charts. And then it dies(symbolism). No readings. No nothing.

Ray reluctantly puts the PKE meter back inside the drawer(more symbolism). He starts to walk away, resigned to the fact that this may have been a malfunction or blip, but then we hear the noise again, cut to Ray as a big smile comes across his face. We hear the familiar opening to the Ghostbusters theme song…as the paranormal enters the world once again.
I really like it.

But I still think that the hand who holds the pke belongs to Egon.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 16th, 2021, 3:31 pm
by starang11
I just can't see them actually showing Egon in any way...not as a ghost, not even with a body double and obscuring his face. I don't think Jason and Ivan would take that kind of liberty with the character, not with Ramis gone and not able to have a say in it. And it's a fine line to walk between being sweet/touching and coming off as cheesy or tacky (because every fan will know it's not really him). We know he'll be shown in pictures and that video clip, and is central to the story and in a way will live on through the younger characters, and I think that's enough.

(Of course, I could be entirely wrong about all of that)

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 16th, 2021, 3:45 pm
by Hairy Biker
Maybe its not Ray or Egon.
That could easily be Grooberson in his blazer from his date... Yeah I don't by that either...

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 16th, 2021, 5:05 pm
by obiwanjabroni
Hairy Biker wrote: September 16th, 2021, 3:45 pm Maybe its not Ray or Egon.
That could easily be Grooberson in his blazer from his date... Yeah I don't by that either...
You may actually be on to something here. I went back and took a look at the lapels and cuffs on his jacket in the mini-pufts teaser and compared them with the PKE clip in trailer 2. It's close...but still too hard to call.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 16th, 2021, 5:31 pm
by Hairy Biker
Guess we'll find out in November/ January.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 16th, 2021, 7:18 pm
by 69428scj
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anyone suggest that hand being Finn's hand. I mean, I've seen him in quite a few pictures with coveralls, so wouldn't it be reasonable to assume it's him???

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 16th, 2021, 7:40 pm
by deadderek
It's clearly an older looking hand.

NEW interview with Sigourney Weaver with ET Canada discussing Ghostbusters: Afterlife briefly:

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Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 16th, 2021, 7:49 pm
by SpaceBallz
There's no way that all these original characters are coming back just for cameos, that'd be a lot of 30+year character development to squeeze into a 10-15 minute cameo.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 16th, 2021, 8:34 pm
by mrmichaelt
They're taking Ghostbusters questions for Dan Aykroyd on the Crystal Head Facebook page here.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 16th, 2021, 11:19 pm
by Davideverona
So, time is gnawing away our dear September and we're nearing the last month of buildup to the movie.
Official poster, when??? Last trailer, when??? 😁

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 17th, 2021, 12:24 am
by Alphagaia
Davideverona wrote: September 16th, 2021, 11:19 pm So, time is gnawing away our dear September and we're nearing the last month of buildup to the movie.
Official poster, when??? Last trailer, when??? 😁
When will then be now?
Soon!

My money is around the 8th of next month, as they will also be releasing new clips that day.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 17th, 2021, 12:55 am
by timeware
I'm going to say in November, or if Sony knows for sure the dates going to stick.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 17th, 2021, 8:14 am
by JonXCTrack
I'd imagine that a new trailer would be released with the new Venom movie, but if not, then certainly by the end of October.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 17th, 2021, 8:29 am
by Alphagaia
So far they announced a new trailer every time, right? When it's coming we will know.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 17th, 2021, 8:47 am
by starang11
JonXCTrack wrote: September 17th, 2021, 8:14 am I'd imagine that a new trailer would be released with the new Venom movie, but if not, then certainly by the end of October.
I was thinking either Venom or Bond, then I thought, nah both of those would be too soon for a third trailer, the last one just came out. Then I realized it's been almost 2 months since the last trailer. This movie continues to bend time for me.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 18th, 2021, 12:52 pm
by JonXCTrack
starang11 wrote:
JonXCTrack wrote: September 17th, 2021, 8:14 am I'd imagine that a new trailer would be released with the new Venom movie, but if not, then certainly by the end of October.
I was thinking either Venom or Bond, then I thought, nah both of those would be too soon for a third trailer, the last one just came out. Then I realized it's been almost 2 months since the last trailer. This movie continues to bend time for me.
Yeah, the last 2 years has just been both a blur and taken forever at the same time. It's weird.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 18th, 2021, 1:21 pm
by tylergfoster
starang11 wrote: September 16th, 2021, 3:31 pm I just can't see them actually showing Egon in any way...not as a ghost, not even with a body double and obscuring his face. I don't think Jason and Ivan would take that kind of liberty with the character, not with Ramis gone and not able to have a say in it. And it's a fine line to walk between being sweet/touching and coming off as cheesy or tacky (because every fan will know it's not really him). We know he'll be shown in pictures and that video clip, and is central to the story and in a way will live on through the younger characters, and I think that's enough.

(Of course, I could be entirely wrong about all of that)
Personally, I'm okay with seeing Egon represented on screen as long as it doesn't involve bringing Harold back using CGI. I'm fine with a body double whose face we never see. I have also been saying since 2019 that it feels like that footage Jason had unearthed from the original movie seems like a pretty obvious way to get him in the movie without creating anything new, but repurposing material of Harold that already exists.
SpaceBallz wrote: September 16th, 2021, 7:49 pm There's no way that all these original characters are coming back just for cameos, that'd be a lot of 30+year character development to squeeze into a 10-15 minute cameo.
10-15 minutes isn't a cameo, though. 10-15 minutes apiece amongst Bill, Dan, Ernie, Sigourney, and Annie is significant time in the film from the original cast. 1-2 minutes is a cameo.

Anthony Hopkins is only in The Silence of the Lambs for 15 minutes. It's all in how the time is deployed and how it's used.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 18th, 2021, 2:31 pm
by Bison256
A thought I had last night, what if the prologue is Egon catching the terror dog in the trap Phoebe finds? I don't mind a deep fake Ramis if the segment is short and well done.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 18th, 2021, 3:48 pm
by jaypakavelya
Based on this picture of Dan Aykroyd, I am pretty sure that it's Ray holding the PKE meter in the last trailer ... The hands looks very similar
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Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 18th, 2021, 4:07 pm
by Sav C
jaypakavelya wrote: September 18th, 2021, 3:48 pm Based on this picture of Dan Aykroyd, I am pretty sure that it's Ray holding the PKE meter in the last trailer ... The hands looks very similar
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Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 18th, 2021, 7:25 pm
by jaypakavelya
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Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 18th, 2021, 9:08 pm
by Hairy Biker
To me the index finger looks to match.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 18th, 2021, 11:15 pm
by mrmichaelt
Is Eric laughing that we're spending so much time analyzing the hand? :P

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 18th, 2021, 11:50 pm
by SeikoVoiceNote29
It’s just so...so beautiful :sigh:

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Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 19th, 2021, 12:20 am
by deadderek
mrmichaelt wrote: September 18th, 2021, 11:15 pm Is Eric laughing that we're spending so much time analyzing the hand? :P
One of my favorite moments with Eric was thinking I found an Easter Egg when IGN released all those pictures.

I messaged him because I had spotted the "mystery person" next to the Ecto.

His 1st response was a facepalm emoji. For some reason that cracked me up.

He thanked me for pointing it out, and said it was a crew member there accidentally.

Subsequent versions of the pic released they removed the crew member.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 19th, 2021, 2:26 am
by RichardLess
droidguy1119 wrote: September 18th, 2021, 1:21 pm
starang11 wrote: September 16th, 2021, 3:31 pm I just can't see them actually showing Egon in any way...not as a ghost, not even with a body double and obscuring his face. I don't think Jason and Ivan would take that kind of liberty with the character, not with Ramis gone and not able to have a say in it. And it's a fine line to walk between being sweet/touching and coming off as cheesy or tacky (because every fan will know it's not really him). We know he'll be shown in pictures and that video clip, and is central to the story and in a way will live on through the younger characters, and I think that's enough.

(Of course, I could be entirely wrong about all of that)
Personally, I'm okay with seeing Egon represented on screen as long as it doesn't involve bringing Harold back using CGI. I'm fine with a body double whose face we never see. I have also been saying since 2019 that it feels like that footage Jason had unearthed from the original movie seems like a pretty obvious way to get him in the movie without creating anything new, but repurposing material of Harold that already exists.
SpaceBallz wrote: September 16th, 2021, 7:49 pm There's no way that all these original characters are coming back just for cameos, that'd be a lot of 30+year character development to squeeze into a 10-15 minute cameo.
10-15 minutes isn't a cameo, though. 10-15 minutes apiece amongst Bill, Dan, Ernie, Sigourney, and Annie is significant time in the film from the original cast. 1-2 minutes is a cameo.

Anthony Hopkins is only in The Silence of the Lambs for 15 minutes. It's all in how the time is deployed and how it's used.
They did that for Rise of Skywalker, they repurposed cut footage, and it’s awkward as hell. It takes you right out of the movie. You can see how they reversed engineered the scene, the dialogue is stilted. It was wrong. It felt contrived. Because it was.

I know they won’t, but just leave it alone. I’ve yet to see quality recreations of actors that have passed away. It doesn’t work because the audience knows the actor is dead. So right away our eyes start to wander and look for the seams & it takes you right out of the immersive nature film is suppose to have. Rogue One, every time Tarkin appeared I thought “Wow. Cool effect” No matter what they do, it takes you out of the scene. Even deep fakes or the de aging takes you out of the scene, at least at first. But for actors that have passed away? I just don’t think it’s worth it.

Re: [SPOILERS] Ghostbusters: Afterlife discussion thread

Posted: September 19th, 2021, 7:52 am
by groschopf
deadderek wrote: September 19th, 2021, 12:20 am
One of my favorite moments with Eric was thinking I found an Easter Egg when IGN released all those pictures.

I messaged him because I had spotted the "mystery person" next to the Ecto.
Yeah, thanks for verifying that one with Erich.

I'm still looking forward to seeing whether or not the bottles are a hat tip to old school myths about trapping evil spirits.