- December 3rd, 2021, 7:21 pm#4962578
Like the title says, this thread is for discussing how to convert the upcoming Haslab Spengler Pack into something resembling the 1984 or 1989 Proton Packs.
Kingpin wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 7:09 pm From this moment on I would like to request the discussion stays on the topic of the HasLab Spengler release rather than veer any further into the hypothetical "Haslab '84 Pack" discussion.
If Hasbro announces such a project we'll create a new topic, but until then, the topic seems rather academic.
Users are welcome to discuss their conversion plans for the upcoming Haslab Pack in this new thread: Official HasLab Spengler Pack to Classic Pack conversion thread.
One time wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 8:56 pmYeah. The pack can pass, but I really would like a different wand at least, that would make a huge difference.Kingpin wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 7:09 pm From this moment on I would like to request the discussion stays on the topic of the HasLab Spengler release rather than veer any further into the hypothetical "Haslab '84 Pack" discussion.
If Hasbro announces such a project we'll create a new topic, but until then, the topic seems rather academic.
Users are welcome to discuss their conversion plans for the upcoming Haslab Pack in this new thread: Official HasLab Spengler Pack to Classic Pack conversion thread.
Ok here's a discussion:
As awesome as this whole thing is. And it is awesome.
The only way we will be able to display this PP out of the box (with the attached hose, etc) is with a Spengler wand.
I.e. as die hard fans who never got around to building a pack themselves, we still won't be able to have an actual old school proton pack and wand. It will have to feature the "wooden grip" Hasbro wand. PS: This is not a 84 or 21 pack discussion, as for me both versions of the pack are near enough identical. Take a few pieces off and it's an 84.
It's more the fact that people who never built their own pack and wand are stuck with displaying it with a Hasbro wooden front grip Spengler. So what solution are people considering to help that?
Convert a Spengler to 2 black 84 finger grips? Or somehow fix another dummy hose attached to a Matty wand on the v hook?
GhostFaceX wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 8:59 pmWe don't have one. Convert a Spengler? Build your own 84 wand? Or get a dummy hose and attach a Matty?One time wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 8:56 pmYeah. The pack can pass, but I really would like a different wand at least, that would make a huge difference.
Ok here's a discussion:
As awesome as this whole thing is. And it is awesome.
The only way we will be able to display this PP out of the box (with the attached hose, etc) is with a Spengler wand.
I.e. as die hard fans who never got around to building a pack themselves, we still won't be able to have an actual old school proton pack and wand. It will have to feature the "wooden grip" Hasbro wand. PS: This is not a 84 or 21 pack discussion, as for me both versions of the pack are near enough identical. Take a few pieces off and it's an 84.
It's more the fact that people who never built their own pack and wand are stuck with displaying it with a Hasbro wooden front grip Spengler. So what solution are people considering to help that?
Convert a Spengler to 2 black 84 finger grips? Or somehow fix another dummy hose attached to a Matty wand on the v hook?
One time wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 9:08 pmHow comfortable are you with using a dremel on the wand?GhostFaceX wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 8:59 pmWe don't have one. Convert a Spengler? Build your own 84 wand? Or get a dummy hose and attach a Matty?
Yeah. The pack can pass, but I really would like a different wand at least, that would make a huge difference.
The moment I receive this that will be my initial thought. I cant display this with a Hasbro Spengler. That's just no go for an '84 nut. Which I have been since '84.
I may just beef up the front grip on a Hasbro Spengler with some paper padding before covering both the front and rear grips with black tape. If I can't be bothered to take stuff apart. Which I doubt I will be.
THawke wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 9:45 pm I'm a little surprised that I haven't really seen anyone make a 3D printed '84 front grip capable of just fitting over the wood grip with little to no modification of the wood grip necessary. That would be a slam dunk item. It might be a bit chunkier than the actual '84 grip was, but it could still be a good option for those wanting an '84 thrower.Actually someone from this forum did when it was first released. However it doesn’t look quite right. The wooden grip sticks out too much so even if you add it on it looks off.
jonogunn wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 9:50 pmHmm, I kind of figured there had to be a reason why it hadn't been done on a large scale. I suppose if a printed grip was thin enough overall to not look off, it'd be too structurally weak to actually grip without being crushed.THawke wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 9:45 pm I'm a little surprised that I haven't really seen anyone make a 3D printed '84 front grip capable of just fitting over the wood grip with little to no modification of the wood grip necessary. That would be a slam dunk item. It might be a bit chunkier than the actual '84 grip was, but it could still be a good option for those wanting an '84 thrower.Actually someone from this forum did when it was first released. However it doesn’t look quite right. The wooden grip sticks out too much so even if you add it on it looks off.
timeware wrote: ↑December 4th, 2021, 12:53 am There is no longer the need to discuss this is in the hasbro pulse thread.This topic was created to keep the main HasLab pack thread on topic. Despite requests from two moderators a lot of the recent discussion has veered towards how to convert the pack into a 1984 one, and at times it's derailed the actual discussion about the pack replica.
THawke wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 9:45 pm I'm a little surprised that I haven't really seen anyone make a 3D printed '84 front grip capable of just fitting over the wood grip with little to no modification of the wood grip necessary. That would be a slam dunk item. It might be a bit chunkier than the actual '84 grip was, but it could still be a good option for those wanting an '84 thrower.A real slam dunk item would be for Hasbro to release an actual 84' wand. The best part is, the Spengler wand had it's chance and wide release - they are never doing it again. The next one HAS to be an 84' wand - every other wand in the movie is an 84' wand, so let's go already Hasbro!
ProtonPack83 wrote: ↑December 4th, 2021, 6:27 amHave you contacted Hasbro directly to voice your opinions/concerns to them?THawke wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 9:45 pm I'm a little surprised that I haven't really seen anyone make a 3D printed '84 front grip capable of just fitting over the wood grip with little to no modification of the wood grip necessary. That would be a slam dunk item. It might be a bit chunkier than the actual '84 grip was, but it could still be a good option for those wanting an '84 thrower.A real slam dunk item would be for Hasbro to release an actual 84' wand. The best part is, the Spengler wand had it's chance and wide release - they are never doing it again. The next one HAS to be an 84' wand - every other wand in the movie is an 84' wand, so let's go already Hasbro!
ProtonPack83 wrote: ↑December 4th, 2021, 6:27 am A real slam dunk item would be for Hasbro to release an actual 84' wand. The best part is, the Spengler wand had it's chance and wide release - they are never doing it again. The next one HAS to be an 84' wand - every other wand in the movie is an 84' wand, so let's go already Hasbro!Actually, the wand on Wrecto-1 is largely a match for the Spengler wand.
GhostFaceX wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 11:47 pm Here's a question..to those that have both, which is more comfortable, an 84 front grip or the shotgun grip?84, by far. By far.
One time wrote: ↑December 4th, 2021, 12:49 pmBecause it's supposed to look jury rigged. The idea is Egon couldn't afford to fix it properly so he worked with what materials he had on hand.GhostFaceX wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 11:47 pm Here's a question..to those that have both, which is more comfortable, an 84 front grip or the shotgun grip?84, by far. By far.
The shotgun grip makes the thrower feel like any other rifle type weapon.
The 84 double finger grip, with its 90 degree offset front to rear, really makes it feel like a mysterious tool designed to go beserk and that needs to be gripped tightly.
I don’t really know why they got rid of that unique feature by making one of the grips a boring shotgun grip.
ProtonPack83 wrote: ↑December 4th, 2021, 6:27 amTHawke wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2021, 9:45 pm I'm a little surprised that I haven't really seen anyone make a 3D printed '84 front grip capable of just fitting over the wood grip with little to no modification of the wood grip necessary. That would be a slam dunk item. It might be a bit chunkier than the actual '84 grip was, but it could still be a good option for those wanting an '84 thrower.A real slam dunk item would be for Hasbro to release an actual 84' wand. The best part is, the Spengler wand had it's chance and wide release - they are never doing it again. The next one HAS to be an 84' wand - every other wand in the movie is an 84' wand, so let's go already Hasbro!
Kingpin wrote: ↑December 4th, 2021, 9:14 amI'm sorry, where in my statements was there ANYTHING about Hasbro's choice to do a 2021 pack? There are literally 3 other comments in this same thread talking about 84' wands - yet mine is singled out? Seems like some convenient moderation there...ProtonPack83 wrote: ↑December 4th, 2021, 6:27 am A real slam dunk item would be for Hasbro to release an actual 84' wand. The best part is, the Spengler wand had it's chance and wide release - they are never doing it again. The next one HAS to be an 84' wand - every other wand in the movie is an 84' wand, so let's go already Hasbro!Actually, the wand on Wrecto-1 is largely a match for the Spengler wand.
With that said, I want to lay things out so there's no confusion: This topic is here to discuss how to mod the HasLab pack to look like one of the classic Packs.
Not to repeat what's already been said in the main HasLab pack thread about Hasbro's choice to do a 2021 Pack instead of a 1984 one. You've had the opportunity to voice your views on the project as have others, so it's time to move on from what could've been to what is being released.
I'm sure everyone on this thread would love to understand how talking about 84' wands to go with modded Hasbro packs is some sort of violation? Is this forum not free speech? Are we seriously at this level of micromanagement on a forum about toys and collectibles? This is laughable..I'm sure everyone on this thread would like to know where the hostility is coming from? You aren't being singled out or made fun of. Everyone here is given the opportunity to voice their opinion. Kingpins only making a suggestion here. You aren't getting a green card with that attitude pal.
ProtonPack83 wrote: ↑December 4th, 2021, 9:57 pm I'm sorry, where in my statements was there ANYTHING about Hasbro's choice to do a 2021 pack?It was a pre-emptive request. Based on what you'd already posted in the main HasLab Pack thread.
Bison256 wrote: ↑December 4th, 2021, 1:33 pmOk sure. But that's because we know the lore.One time wrote: ↑December 4th, 2021, 12:49 pmBecause it's supposed to look jury rigged. The idea is Egon couldn't afford to fix it properly so he worked with what materials he had on hand.
84, by far. By far.
The shotgun grip makes the thrower feel like any other rifle type weapon.
The 84 double finger grip, with its 90 degree offset front to rear, really makes it feel like a mysterious tool designed to go beserk and that needs to be gripped tightly.
I don’t really know why they got rid of that unique feature by making one of the grips a boring shotgun grip.
One time wrote: ↑December 6th, 2021, 6:02 pmWell if it helps here’s an old man Venkman holding the wand from the body and able to control his fire.Bison256 wrote: ↑December 4th, 2021, 1:33 pm
Because it's supposed to look jury rigged. The idea is Egon couldn't afford to fix it properly so he worked with what materials he had on hand.
The original 84 wand featured a function that was evident in its form. The double offset grips that indicated it would go beserk. (I'll never forget the feeling I had when I held an original 84 wand for the first time. I did not expect it.) It was like no other gun, rifle or tool I had held.
It was completely congruent with its function. Light beams and "needing to grip tightly" had not gone together before.
RichardLess wrote: ↑December 7th, 2021, 12:29 am Now one of the stretch goals includes more clean looking decals & tags. I was really hoping they’d also do a ribbon cable that isn’t so faded.Depends on if there's a wire for the "unplugged alarm" that was mentioned in the video, or if the circuit contact is just in the ribbon cable clamp portion.
RichardLess wrote: ↑December 7th, 2021, 12:29 amNow all is need to the jumpsuit. I wonder if Hasbro will do a jumpsuit. Probably not.We're hoping to have them restocked in the store ASAP. Failing that there's eBay, or Magnoli's replica.
RichardLess wrote: ↑December 7th, 2021, 12:29 amA little off topic but those of who you cosplay, do you have your own last name on the jumpsuit or one the OGB’s? I can’t decide which way I’ll go. I’m leaning towards OGB.Some fans have gone for the Ghostbusters' surnames on their costume replicas, but most go with their own.
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