- December 2nd, 2020, 6:01 am#4942827
The paranormal shows that seem to hold the most weight for me are any of Nick Groff's shows (Paranormal Lockdown etc) as well as Steve Shippy's 'A Haunting' series.
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Alphagaia wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2020, 10:32 am Are we sure that's how it works?Those typically aren't big budget franchise properties. They're one off lower budget movies the studio has no faith in.
Because sometimes movies get shelved for years and years.
RichardLess wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2020, 4:29 amA lot of people don't believe paranormal investigators because of the ambient music? I mean, its still work in progress, I think dead silence makes for a boring watch. But no music at all is interesting too. "Ghost Adventures" is an embarrassment, and we certainly avoid requests from people who ask us to try and contact their dead relatives because of that statement you made about taking advantage of people. Big haunts like the Hinsdale House with an interesting history is what we try to find for our experiments, and I'm going to be honest - this is for our own curiosity and enjoyment. If any ghost hunter tells you that they do it to "help people" they're full of it. I WOULD like to hear one of the million plausible explanations you mentioned for that thermo pic we took of the couch.SpaceBallz wrote: ↑November 30th, 2020, 2:52 pmYes. That was highly entertaining. The subtitles are especially hilarious. Lol “growling”.
Being a paranormal investigator is almost always a lose-lose situation. If you find incredible evidence you have skeptics call you a charlatan and/or you edited the video. If you don't find evidence then you get hit with the obvious "See, told ya." But, if you feel so inclined for some entertainment, check out this clip from our Hinsdale House investigation documentary we're putting together.
Do you know why people don’t trust paranormal investigators? Because of that footage you just showed me. The ambient music or sounds that they put in to add atmosphere. The sudden jump cut with a loud sound effect to frighten people. It’s all to try and fool people into thinking what they are seeing is a paranormal encounter. My favourite was the pixelated shadow IR image. That was *chefs kiss* the coup de grace. Instead of “Well as human beings we have evolved over millions of years to see shapes & patterns(like human faces, human outlines etc) and that’s all this is” but no. It’s LOUD NOISE, JUMP CUT & look at this spooky shape we have highlighted for you.
There are a million and 1 plausible explanations for everything in that video clip before paranormal should even be an idea in someone’s head.
I’m a firm believer in Occam’s Razor. Which basically boils down to “all things being equal, the simplest explanation is usually the right one”. It’s fun believing in the unknown. It’s partly why conspiracy theories are so popular. They offer a fantastic, other worldly choice than the boring old real world. Once upon a time we use to think lightning & thunder were caused by a God named Zeus. Until we realized the science behind it. Positive and negative charged regions equalized and produce an electro static explosion. Not as fun as a god named Zeus is it? We like to think we as humans are special and that this all means something more than “you are here to procreate & die”. Ghosts offer something we can latch onto as an idea of life after death. They offer explanations of the spooky sounds houses make, things we would see in the dark before electricity. They bolster the idea of Judeo-Christian theology being correct.
Psychics, mediums and ghost hunters have done far more harm to society than helped. Theyve ripped people off and prey on the emotions of people in despair, usually to line their own pockets. If it weren’t for that I’d say it’s all just harmless fun and nothing to take too seriously. Shows like “Ghost Adventures/Hunters” or “Long Island Medium” have taken critical thinking amongst the populace backwards.
I’m waiting for the ghost equivalent of the Tic Tac UFO video footage. Until then...no.
But by god it would be cool. So very, very cool.
A lot of people don't believe paranormal investigators because of the ambient music? I mean, its still work in progress, I think dead silence makes for a boring watch. But no music at all is interesting too. "Ghost Adventures" is an embarrassment, and we certainly avoid requests from people who ask us to try and contact their dead relatives because of that statement you made about taking advantage of people. Big haunts like the Hinsdale House with an interesting history is what we try to find for our experiments, and I'm going to be honest - this is for our own curiosity and enjoyment. If any ghost hunter tells you that they do it to "help people" they're full of it. I WOULD like to hear one of the million plausible explanations you mentioned for that thermo pic we took of the couch.It's not the ambient music it's the timing. Pardon the happy medium pun, but there needs to be a balance of when the music occurs. I'd like to hear the noises the investigators are trying to track. Try to deduce what it is as the show's moving along. While I do like Ghosthunters I find it annoying that they don't leave copies of evidence they find with the people they are trying to help.
metallijosh wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2020, 9:18 pmThat's fair.Sav C wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2020, 4:57 pm Ignore this post.I will not!
mrmichaelt wrote: ↑November 25th, 2020, 9:09 pmThe thing about the Godzilla franchise is they know they must release theatrically because the Chinese box office is a large component of their profits. They can't skip theaters and go digital. It would be catastrophic.Wonder Woman 1984 is going to whatever theaters are open in the US plus HBO Max, and is still getting essentially a theatrical release overseas. An HBO Max deal for Godzilla vs. Kong doesn't mean anything for the Chinese release, both because HBO Max is strictly a US platform, and because domestic and international releases are almost always separate deals.
Dr.D wrote: ↑November 25th, 2020, 9:38 pmAs someone who's GB fandom is only rivaled by their Godzilla fandom, it must be pointed out that I do not think WB has the same faith in this movie as Sony might have with GB:A. The last Godzilla movie didn't exactly show up at the box office. Godzilla vs Kong has gone through heavy heavy reshoots, some of which delayed the movie pre-Covid. I think there is a very real chance they are afraid of a very costly bomb and could be looking to streaming as a way of somewhat hedging their bets.Not dump cold water on this one, but I can't say Sony having faith in Ghostbusters: Afterlife would be the difference here. The most recent box office stories for both movies are the same: Ghostbusters (2016) was also an expensive flop with $3-4m reshoots. Another box office whiff would cement the impression that (subjective qualities aside -- and in this case, I mean Kong: Skull Island and Godzilla: King of the Monsters as well, both of which I also enjoyed) the audience just isn't that interested in more of these movies.
droidguy1119 wrote:Wonder Woman 1984 is going to whatever theaters are open in the US plus HBO Max, and is still getting essentially a theatrical release overseas. An HBO Max deal for Godzilla vs. Kong doesn't mean anything for the Chinese release, both because HBO Max is strictly a US platform, and because domestic and international releases are almost always separate deals.If they do a dual theater-stream release like WW '84, sure that might help Godzilla vs. Kong than just a standard theatrical run. More people who don't plan on going would be more willing to try it out at home on HBO Max in theory. But I don't think a dual release plan for GvK has been confirmed yet.
droidguy1119 wrote:Streaming for Godzilla vs. Kong looks nice, especially on Max, because it preserves a Chinese theatrical release (where KoM made most of its money), and drastically reduces financial risk. It also, once again, gives Warner something to use for promoting their own streamer. I've already stated what I think it would take for Ghostbusters: Afterlife to go to streaming, and I feel like the $200m number that Netflix offered for GvK supports my calculations, but the fact that Sony will want to keep the IP, sequel rights, merch money, and home video still complicates that more than something like GvK.Again, I don't yet see Sony teaming up with Netflix even if NF offers them a very nice deal. In the short term, if the offer is big enough that helps Afterlife's profits - great but as you say in the long run, Sony likely wouldn't accept because of IP, sequel rights, merch money, and home video, etc. This wouldn't be an issue if Sony had their own streaming service rolled out like Disney or Warner Bros. Again, it'll be interesting to see if they turn Crunchyroll into that or keep it only anime.
Alphagaia wrote: ↑December 3rd, 2020, 2:35 am Wait. They wouldn't be selling Afterlife to Netflix, right? They would be renting it. Why would merchandise and such be part of the deal?They mean selling the "broadcast" rights. Remember back in the day when it was a big deal to see a movie on tv for the first time? The networks paid the studio to show the movie, this is similar. They're not going to sell the rights to the IP!
SpaceBallz wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2020, 4:14 pmRichardLess wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2020, 4:29 amA lot of people don't believe paranormal investigators because of the ambient music? I mean, its still work in progress, I think dead silence makes for a boring watch. But no music at all is interesting too. "Ghost Adventures" is an embarrassment, and we certainly avoid requests from people who ask us to try and contact their dead relatives because of that statement you made about taking advantage of people. Big haunts like the Hinsdale House with an interesting history is what we try to find for our experiments, and I'm going to be honest - this is for our own curiosity and enjoyment. If any ghost hunter tells you that they do it to "help people" they're full of it. I WOULD like to hear one of the million plausible explanations you mentioned for that thermo pic we took of the couch.
Yes. That was highly entertaining. The subtitles are especially hilarious. Lol “growling”.
Do you know why people don’t trust paranormal investigators? Because of that footage you just showed me. The ambient music or sounds that they put in to add atmosphere. The sudden jump cut with a loud sound effect to frighten people. It’s all to try and fool people into thinking what they are seeing is a paranormal encounter. My favourite was the pixelated shadow IR image. That was *chefs kiss* the coup de grace. Instead of “Well as human beings we have evolved over millions of years to see shapes & patterns(like human faces, human outlines etc) and that’s all this is” but no. It’s LOUD NOISE, JUMP CUT & look at this spooky shape we have highlighted for you.
There are a million and 1 plausible explanations for everything in that video clip before paranormal should even be an idea in someone’s head.
I’m a firm believer in Occam’s Razor. Which basically boils down to “all things being equal, the simplest explanation is usually the right one”. It’s fun believing in the unknown. It’s partly why conspiracy theories are so popular. They offer a fantastic, other worldly choice than the boring old real world. Once upon a time we use to think lightning & thunder were caused by a God named Zeus. Until we realized the science behind it. Positive and negative charged regions equalized and produce an electro static explosion. Not as fun as a god named Zeus is it? We like to think we as humans are special and that this all means something more than “you are here to procreate & die”. Ghosts offer something we can latch onto as an idea of life after death. They offer explanations of the spooky sounds houses make, things we would see in the dark before electricity. They bolster the idea of Judeo-Christian theology being correct.
Psychics, mediums and ghost hunters have done far more harm to society than helped. Theyve ripped people off and prey on the emotions of people in despair, usually to line their own pockets. If it weren’t for that I’d say it’s all just harmless fun and nothing to take too seriously. Shows like “Ghost Adventures/Hunters” or “Long Island Medium” have taken critical thinking amongst the populace backwards.
I’m waiting for the ghost equivalent of the Tic Tac UFO video footage. Until then...no.
But by god it would be cool. So very, very cool.
Alphagaia wrote: ↑December 2nd, 2020, 10:32 am Are we sure that's how it works?That’s how it works...for some studios. Most film finance is done thru banks & loans. On Godzilla/King Kong, Legendary is the production company & Warners is the distributor. Legendary is owned by a Chinese firm so knowing where the money comes from is...iffy. But it’s probably loans. Which means that the longer it’s not generating revenue the more the studio looses. Sometimes those rates are tied to a specific date.
Because sometimes movies get shelved for years and years.
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