starang11 wrote: ↑January 19th, 2022, 2:35 pmWell you wouldn’t just plug Ray into that role you’d have change a few things. Why would Ray be teaching at the school? We can come up with a few ideas. 1) money. It’s some easy cash he can earn while investigating. 2) Grooberson works with Ray. Grooberson is a huge Ghostbusters fan. He got a job working at Ray’s occult book store and helping Ray with odd jobs. Ray goes to investigate Summerville and brings Grooberson along as his assistant(think Marty & Doc Brown). You can keep Grooberson as the Keymaster. Phoebe still discovers the trap and pack. Ray says to Grooberson after he finds out a few things with Pheobes help “Grooberson you stay here. I’m going back to New York & I’m coming back with some friends”. I also maybe kinda like the idea of Ray working on the Ecto 1 with Trevor.RichardLess wrote: ↑January 19th, 2022, 8:02 am “Egon Spengler can rot in hell” is not Ray Stanz. The film fundamentally gets the character relationship of Egon and Ray wrong. Ray didn’t believe Egon? What? Come on. Ray would be there chasing after Egon in a heartbeat.For sure, Afterlife could have easily told the same basic story without turning Egon into a crazed loner and the dramatic falling out with Ray. All they needed to give us was that the GBs went out of business sometime after GB2 and drifted apart over the next 30 years (makes enough sense). Perhaps Egon eventually "retired" to Summerville with some of the equipment to research the mine for his own interest, and whether he found more than he expected or his presence inadvertently set something in motion, he had to act fast and died before he could send for help. That's all they really needed to establish, Phoebe puts the pieces together with Grooberson and Podcast and her call to Ray is what brings the GBs back. It leads to the same outcome, only without manufacturing this backstory that doesn't seem to fit Egon or Ray's characters.
For a movie that's not primarily focused on the remaining GBs, it seems to go out of its way to stir the pot with their history.
That said, I don't see how Ray in Grooberson's role solves the problem - why would Ray be casually teaching at a summer school if Egon had just recently died? Wouldn't he be sounding the alarms and calling in Winston and Peter? It would bypass the whole point of the kids putting the pieces together.
I duno I mean I’d change a bunch of stuff really. I’d have to take place in rural upstate New York instead of Oklahoma, I’d have a different villain but one maybe related to the whole Gozer/Shandor thing. Like Gozer was just the warm up act for the real show. Maybe even have a reason for Gozer asking “Are you a god?” Gozer would search different dimensions for her master, a true god. I don’t know. The first has spook central as a huge super conductive antenna so this one could be something else Shandor built. A beacon. So he built an antenna and a broadcaster, so to speak. It sends out paranormal signals, and the antenna was meant to receive the response kind of deal. The new movie is about the beacon finally reaching a receiver.
I should stop. Again, there’s a million ways this story could’ve been told. The path they chose has its moments but I feel it could’ve been far better.