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By Winston1986
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ghoulishfright wrote: November 29th, 2021, 1:14 pm Not sure if this was intentional or not, but it just occurred to me that the name Oscar (aside from being a brand of hot dogs) is also the name of the Academy Award, so in Ghostbusters 2, they are literally fighting over an Oscar! Vigo wants an "Oscar," and almost gets it, but in the end, it's the Ghostbusters that "win" Oscar. And we even see them pose with their beloved Oscar on their big night:

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And for most of the movie, Oscar is wearing a yellow/golden outfit, so he even looks like the Academy Award.

So it doesn't matter what the critics say, Ghostbusters 2 is technically an Oscar winning film. Suck on that, Roger Ebert!

(Incidentally, in 1989, Max von Sydow who voiced Vigo was competing for a second Oscar, for his leading role in a film entitled Pelle the Conqueror. So he technically lost out on two Oscars that year... Bummer.)
Oh my gosh! I have seen Ghostbusters 2 several times since I was a kid in the 90s and didn't notice til you posted it here that Venkman has a sword in the painting. Now thinking of it, him having a sword makes him too different from the rest of them in that painting. Also Lol at what you said about Oscar being a nod to the award. Which reminds me I somhow never noticed til a few years ago that Winnie the Pooh was on Oscar's pajamas. And now thinking of it, The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh started the year before Ghostbusters 2 came out. Coincidence?
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By gerard55
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I never realised how wrecked the props for the proton packs were sitting on the table in the courtroom when the judge is flipping his lid. The wand barrel looks virtually detached from the gunbox. Presumably stunt foam rubber versions in some scenes?

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By robbritton
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Guys, I managed to mishear a line from GB2 for 32 years and thus miss an entire joke. I always thought Ray said, "You want the baby? Go ahead and knock up some willing hell hound!". Because of that mishearing, I somehow autocorrected "knock up" into "knock together" to mean "conjure up" - so in my head, the intent of that line has always been: "you're going to need to go and get a super terrifying monster if you want to get through us to Oscar".

It was only this morning it was pointed out to me that Ray is literally telling Vigo to go and have sex with a dog.

The more you know.
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By Kingpin
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It only just clicked while looking at this shot of the New York skyline that the buildings have been flipped from left to right (The Chrysler Building is just visible at the far left, it should be standing to the right of the Empire State):

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This view would only be possible if Peter's apartment lay north of the northernmost part of Central Park (however we know it's not north of the park, as the reverse views feature the Twin Towers).

Here's the fixed orientation:

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By RichardLess
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robbritton wrote: December 10th, 2021, 4:43 am Guys, I managed to mishear a line from GB2 for 32 years and thus miss an entire joke. I always thought Ray said, "You want the baby? Go ahead and knock up some willing hell hound!". Because of that mishearing, I somehow autocorrected "knock up" into "knock together" to mean "conjure up" - so in my head, the intent of that line has always been: "you're going to need to go and get a super terrifying monster if you want to get through us to Oscar".

It was only this morning it was pointed out to me that Ray is literally telling Vigo to go and have sex with a dog.

The more you know.
This is one of my favourite lines from Ray. It’s so badass.

I think Ray might be my favourite Ghostbusters. Infact…yes. Ray is my favourite. He never seems to get enough love.
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By gerard55
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robbritton wrote: December 10th, 2021, 4:43 am Guys, I managed to mishear a line from GB2 for 32 years and thus miss an entire joke. I always thought Ray said, "You want the baby? Go ahead and knock up some willing hell hound!". Because of that mishearing, I somehow autocorrected "knock up" into "knock together" to mean "conjure up" - so in my head, the intent of that line has always been: "you're going to need to go and get a super terrifying monster if you want to get through us to Oscar".

It was only this morning it was pointed out to me that Ray is literally telling Vigo to go and have sex with a dog.

The more you know.
"Knock up" can also mean make something in a hurry\conjur something up. I doubt he meant it as saying go screw a dog.
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By jonogunn
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gerard55 wrote: December 20th, 2021, 2:05 pm
robbritton wrote: December 10th, 2021, 4:43 am Guys, I managed to mishear a line from GB2 for 32 years and thus miss an entire joke. I always thought Ray said, "You want the baby? Go ahead and knock up some willing hell hound!". Because of that mishearing, I somehow autocorrected "knock up" into "knock together" to mean "conjure up" - so in my head, the intent of that line has always been: "you're going to need to go and get a super terrifying monster if you want to get through us to Oscar".

It was only this morning it was pointed out to me that Ray is literally telling Vigo to go and have sex with a dog.

The more you know.
"Knock up" can also mean make something in a hurry\conjur something up. I doubt he meant it as saying go screw a dog.
He meant exactly that.
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By gerard55
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jonogunn wrote: December 21st, 2021, 3:23 pm
gerard55 wrote: December 20th, 2021, 2:05 pm

"Knock up" can also mean make something in a hurry\conjur something up. I doubt he meant it as saying go screw a dog.
He meant exactly that.
His actual quote is "You want A baby? Go ahead and knock up some willing hell hound". Had it been "the baby" then it would have made more sense that he was telling him to conjure something up to get past them to get to Oscar. So yeah it seems he did mean go screw a dog. :shock:
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By JWils23
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It’s funny, I always assumed a “hell hound” was just slang for a woman who was into the occult/witch craft/black magic etc. Just like how cops and firemen have “badge bunnies” and bull riders have “buckle bunnies”, Vigo could go find a willing participant in his evil. Granted those are bunnies and not hounds but it was meant in the same light.
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By gerard55
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JWils23 wrote: December 21st, 2021, 3:51 pm It’s funny, I always assumed a “hell hound” was just slang for a woman who was into the occult/satan/black magic etc. Just like how cops and firemen have badge bunnies and bull riders have buckle bunnies. Granted those are bunnies and not hounds but it was meant in the same light.
I always considered it a reference to terror dogs for some reason.
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By gerard55
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Something i never noticed before, in the 84 movie when Gozer sends out the electric blast in the background you can see what looks like a black metal pole moving along from right to left, guessing it was a smoke emitter or a connection to the harnass to pull the actors backwards? It's pretty noticable as well, only took me to today to notice it :shock::-o

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By Welsh Pirate
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gerard55 wrote: December 22nd, 2021, 9:30 am Something i never noticed before, in the 84 movie when Gozer sends out the electric blast in the background you can see what looks like a black metal pole moving along from right to left, guessing it was a smoke emitter or a connection to the harnass to pull the actors backwards? It's pretty noticable as well, only took me to today to notice it :shock::-o

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And I only just now noticed that Gozer's lightning was multicolored. I always just thought it was purple, but it looks like some of it was yellow as well!
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By ghoulishfright
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I saw this image (below) of Jesus Christ and couldn't help but notice the strong similarity to the Ghostbusters 2 logo. It's probably just a coincidence, but it also wouldn't surprise me if Mooglie's hand gesture is indeed intended to have some double meaning as both the number two (for the sequel) and a religious or occult gesture. My understanding is that it means "blessing" in typical Catholic iconography, and since Dan Aykroyd was raised a proper Catholic, it wouldn't surprise me if he was referencing such imagery. If that's the case, then it makes me feel better about the artistic choice of the gesture, since it would give additional meaning to it beyond the simple number two, to denote a sequel which would not exist inside the universe of the film. In this way, the gesture could also mean "blessing" or "peace" in addition to (Ghostbusters) "two" or, "Hey, we're back in business for the 'second' time." For that reason, I defend the Ghostbusters 2 logo as more than just a meta-image to market the film (although, of course it functions on that level). At the very least, it is plausible that it represents more than that.

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By MichaelGil
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| alkaline | wrote: July 15th, 2010, 8:44 am One thing I noticed while watching GB1 on the big screen was in Louis' apartment, during the party scene, there is a pretty funny picture of him in a cap and gown holding a diploma. Not sure if its high school graduation or his graduation from Law School :D

Could be his CPA?
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By Ecto24601
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As I was watching the GB2 deleted scenes I noticed for the first time that the scene of Peter dancing, used in the end credits, actually precedes the alternate scene of the sewer invitation. It's kinda funny they used cut footage of Ernie, Bill and Slimer for the end credits.
By Winston1986
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Ecto24601 wrote: February 12th, 2022, 1:58 pm As I was watching the GB2 deleted scenes I noticed for the first time that the scene of Peter dancing, used in the end credits, actually precedes the alternate scene of the sewer invitation. It's kinda funny they used cut footage of Ernie, Bill and Slimer for the end credits.
That reminds me that I wish they could have had more scenes of them in the black uniforms. They look so cool.
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By ghoulishfright
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Finally got around to watching Dragonslayer (1981), and I realized that Peter MacNicol's character in that film is very similar in a way to Janosz is Ghostbusters 2, in that he is the apprentice of a powerful sorcerer who bestows upon him supernatural powers and communicates with him from beyond the grave. Of course, in Dragonslayer he is the protagonist, and in Ghostbusters 2 he is the antagonist, but I'd be willing to bet the farm that Ivan Reitman or someone from the Ghostbusters 2 production saw MacNicol in Dragonslayer and thereby considered him for the role of Janosz; the parallels are just too strong. Likewise, I'm willing to bet that Mel Brooks saw MacNicol in Ghostbusters 2 and thereby cast him as Renfield in Dracula: Dead and Loving It, since Janosz is also so similar to Renfield (and Vigo to Vlad/Dracula).
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By Donkey8012
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gerard55 wrote: December 21st, 2021, 3:27 pm
jonogunn wrote: December 21st, 2021, 3:23 pm

He meant exactly that.
His actual quote is "You want A baby? Go ahead and knock up some willing hell hound". Had it been "the baby" then it would have made more sense that he was telling him to conjure something up to get past them to get to Oscar. So yeah it seems he did mean go screw a dog. :shock:
I'm dumbfounded that anyone could interpret what Ray says here as anything other than "If you want a baby, you should go conceive one with a female that wishes to do so." Maybe this is just sarcasm flying over my head.

He's not telling Vigo to be intimate with a canine. Seriously, guys.
By DocLathropBrown
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Donkey8012 wrote: February 17th, 2022, 10:16 am I'm dumbfounded that anyone could interpret what Ray says here as anything other than "If you want a baby, you should go conceive one with a female that wishes to do so." Maybe this is just sarcasm flying over my head.

He's not telling Vigo to be intimate with a canine. Seriously, guys.
I don't see why Ray can't possibly be talking about a Hellhound, considering he says it. Is it hard to believe that a supernatural comedy would be making jokes about supernatural creatures? There's no reason to do mental backflips to avoid realizing that's the point of his joke--it's meant to insult and belittle Vigo, since he is their enemy. Case closed.
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By robbritton
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DocLathropBrown wrote: February 21st, 2022, 11:43 am
Donkey8012 wrote: February 17th, 2022, 10:16 am I'm dumbfounded that anyone could interpret what Ray says here as anything other than "If you want a baby, you should go conceive one with a female that wishes to do so." Maybe this is just sarcasm flying over my head.

He's not telling Vigo to be intimate with a canine. Seriously, guys.
I don't see why Ray can't possibly be talking about a Hellhound, considering he says it. Is it hard to believe that a supernatural comedy would be making jokes about supernatural creatures? There's no reason to do mental backflips to avoid realizing that's the point of his joke--it's meant to insult and belittle Vigo, since he is their enemy. Case closed.
Yep, that is 100% the implication and the gag. It's a gag I'd missed for years, but there was no denying it once I'd noticed it!
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By Ginger
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Last week I rewatched GBI trying to pay attention to 'new' details, and it made me laugh the exchange of slaps between Ray and Peter.
First, Ray slaps Peter at the prison (probably it came for the early ear pulling) and later, at the roof, Peter slaps Ray! :lol:
By TheManEatingToaster
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Peter Venkman Jr. wrote: September 29th, 2018, 6:38 pm For me the biggest "How did I miss that" moment in Ghostbusters was Peter playing with the slime on his shoulder when Ray tells the Hotel Manager to keep the staff outside the ballroom until Slimer is contained. Also I did not pick up Egon's hand signals to Peter when Peter is billing the hotel until I listened to the DVD audio commentary. The same went for Janine listening to Peck's conversation with Peter in the firehouse.

For Ghostbusters II, I was really surprised to see the photos of Nakia and Top Cat on the wall behind Peter and his producer Norman after the taping of "The World of the Psychic". Also I was pretty surprised that I never noticed the newspaper clippings and magazine covers in his office at the firehouse when the Ghostbusters were back in business until a recent thread here pointed them out. Also the two firefighters having a fist fight outside the museum escaped my noticed for many years until now.
Where can I see the firefighters having a fist fight? I immediately thought of the firefighters from Gangs of New York.
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By One time
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This has probably been mentioned before, and while I like but am not in love with the movie GB: Answer The Call, Bill Murray apparently doesn't die after he gets thrown out the window. The extended edition features this newspaper clipping in the scene after Kristen Wiig punches someone who is meant to caricaturize men:

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There was a way they could have tied the Ghostbusters video game in with Ghostbusters after life there's lots of reason it makes much more sense after the video game the Egon would will be worried about goza's return.

Let's begin with the Mandela beneath the New York public library the New York museum of History and the Sedgwick hotel not to mention isomized that at the end of Ghostbusters video game Egon would be fascinated about how shandora all these resources to build beneath Manhattan and where it came from what the help of Alyssa shandor they would go through the remaining estate and come across minds of reside out in Oklahoma

Egon would go to investigate and find shandor a second site for goza is coming plus the dates of goza return on top of that Plus on top of all that in the game Ray comes with the idea that goes up was stuck in his previous destructive form once he entered the universe one destructive form buddy address per dimension but if when Ivan shandor admittedly destroyed goza for his failure and took his own destructive form what if doing so freed goza from the previous Avatar State and was stuck in and at the end when the Ghostbusters cross the streams one more time the blow themselves out of the portal they destroyed Ivan shandos destructive form because he was not really as powerful as those are the ghost area so the worst particle streams his Avatar body trapping his spirit and his body of his preserved self still like him all right so I'm still working out of logistics on how that works really good to just kept that part out sorry for this long rant everyone thanks for listening and think about it :sigh:
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Lenny T mosca wrote: August 24th, 2022, 5:44 am There was a way they could have tied the Ghostbusters video game in with Ghostbusters after life there's lots of reason it makes much more sense after the video game the Egon would will be worried about goza's return.

Let's begin with the Mandela beneath the New York public library the New York museum of History and the Sedgwick hotel not to mention isomized that at the end of Ghostbusters video game Egon would be fascinated about how shandora all these resources to build beneath Manhattan and where it came from what the help of Alyssa shandor they would go through the remaining estate and come across minds of reside out in Oklahoma

Egon would go to investigate and find shandor a second site for goza is coming plus the dates of goza return on top of that Plus on top of all that in the game Ray comes with the idea that goes up was stuck in his previous destructive form once he entered the universe one destructive form buddy address per dimension but if when Ivan shandor admittedly destroyed goza for his failure and took his own destructive form what if doing so freed goza from the previous Avatar State and was stuck in and at the end when the Ghostbusters cross the streams one more time the blow themselves out of the portal they destroyed Ivan shandos destructive form because he was not really as powerful as those are the ghost area so the worst particle streams his Avatar body trapping his spirit and his body of his preserved self still like him all right so I'm still working out of logistics on how that works really good to just kept that part out sorry for this long rant everyone thanks for listening and think about it :sigh:
That's not really a "How did I miss that?!?", though... It's not something that you noticed about part of the franchise years after the fact.

And despite the efforts to combine the two, the video game and Afterlife just contradict each other too much.
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