[Bison256]

1:Shandor wasn't alive, he was a reanimated corpse full of slime. This is pretty clear in Afterlife, I don't understand why people think he was some how alive.

2: Ghost are a form of energy. Energy can't be destroyed. Shandor lost the extra power he got from the ECU and was banished back to the "ghost world" at the end of the game. In Afterlife his weakened soul came back to his prepared body when the "well of souls" reached the chamber in the mine.

His skull was found by the Rookie in Central Park, and it's description made it clear his physical body had rotted away by 1992.

Plus, I'm pretty sure what you interpret as "slime" was just meant to be some of his internal juices... If Afterlife had been rater higher than 12/PG-13, it would've had a much gorier moment than what was filmed.

Shandor was a pale embalmed corpse with white eyes. He only reanimated when the souls got near the surface of the well. Remember he "deanimated" when it was forced back down? That's in the film.

As for the skull, the source Egon used to create the database was wrong. Easy, besides another collectable is a Blu-ray of the movie with a 4th wall breaking database entree. Don't take the collectables that seriously.

[Kingpin]

As for the skull, the source Egon used to create the database was wrong.

That's changing the evidence to fit the theory, when it should be a case of changing the theory to fit the evidence.

There's already enough material, even if only on a small scale to make the two incompatible... What's going to happen if the upcoming film introduces even more material that contradicts the video game?

[Hairy Biker]

2) Shandor can't be alive and well in his body if he's already well and truly destroyed in the video game. He's not some demi-god like Gozer, he was just a regular ghost that got to form into a destructor.

1:Shandor wasn't alive, he was a reanimated corpse full of slime. This is pretty clear in Afterlife, I don't understand why people think he was some how alive.

2: Ghost are a form of energy. Energy can't be destroyed. Shandor lost the extra power he got from the ECU and was banished back to the "ghost world" at the end of the game. In Afterlife his weakened soul came back to his prepared body when the "well of souls" reached the chamber in the mine.

Whats the source on Shandor being a slime filled corpose?

[mrmichaelt]

Whats the source on Shandor being a slime filled corpse?

I was wondering that, too. I know for sure the puppet itself used for that bisecting scene was filled with slime. Not sure if that was meant to translate to Shandor's body in-universe as well.

Stan Winston School "The Phantasmic Makeup & Creature FX of Ghostbusters: Afterlife" 1/11/2022
https://www.stanwinstonschool.com/blog/ ... -interview
Arjen Tuiten says, "We dressed with slime, shot it twice, and that was it. We had it. It was a success, and they loved it."

Yes Have Some YouTube "Jason Reitman Interview - Ghostbusters Afterlife, Franchise Future, Bill Murray!" somewhere at 30 min mark 11/25/2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e8ZOPm8bYY
Jason Reitman says, "...we just filled it with goo and then you just rip it right apart and that was a delight...Well, he got to watch himself get ripped apart which I think was kind of fun, too, you know he actually like got to see his own body rip into which yeah don't we all--"

[Hairy Biker]

Interesting. I never viewed it as slime. I presumed it was just viscera n blood.

I thought Shandor was just in some sort of ritualistic paranormal sleep until it was time to wake up.

Still doesn't make the game canon though.

[Bison256]

As I've said I consider the 2009 game soft cannon. But said there are many things that bug me about it:

1 Due to Sony's requirements the story is an excuse plot to revisit iconic locations from the first flim.

2 That plot really feels like it was written with the real Ghostbusters versions of the guys in mind. As they act more like those versions than the movie ones.

3 It stretches plausibility that the infrastructure the Shandor cult built would remain undiscovered for 80 years, particularly the massive tunnels under the museum.

Now on things relating to afterlife.

1 Peter seems to be separated from Dana in the game, even if that's temporary, him hitting on another women during that makes him seem like a bigger jerk than normal. While this isn't particularly unrealistic it bothers me.

2 It's already a stretch that Ray wouldn't believe Egon about Summerville. If the video game events happened it's even more inexcusable.

[Kieron W]

As I've said I consider the 2009 game soft cannon. But said there are many things that bug me about it:

1 Due to Sony's requirements the story is an excuse plot to revisit iconic locations from the first flim.

2 That plot really feels like it was written with the real Ghostbusters versions of the guys in mind. As they act more like those versions than the movie ones.

3 It stretches plausibility that the infrastructure the Shandor cult built would remain undiscovered for 80 years, particularly the massive tunnels under the museum.

Now on things relating to afterlife.

1 Peter seems to be separated from Dana in the game, even if that's temporary, him hitting on another women during that makes him seem like a bigger jerk than normal. While this isn't particularly unrealistic it bothers me.

2 It's already a stretch that Ray wouldn't believe Egon about Summerville. If the video game events happened it's even more inexcusable.

If I remember rightly, they tried to get Sigourney back to reprise her role as Dana Barrett/Dana Barrett Venkman, but Sigourney turned it down as I think she was doing her parts in Avatar at the time so they changed it to the character that eventually brought in Alyssa Milano (who was not a great voice over artist at all imho, she was just very cardboardy when it came to voicing) and they (Dan/Harold) had to change it to the character being a descendent of Ivo Shandor.

[Bison256]

Between the two bad choices I prefer that Dana not be a Shandor.

[One time]

Between the two bad choices I prefer that Dana not be a Shandor.

I disagree with that. I think GB1, GB2 and GBTVG are a perfect trilogy. The river of slime related to the sloar, the library ghost Eleanor Twitty, how it links GB1 and GB2 together, etc.

And people can say what they want, I keep going back to this:

We will never have a GB1 immersion experience that is as close as GBTVG (due to Harold's death). Be it how you are teamed up with select GB's in singles and pairs, how they riff off of each other and you.... it's just so well thought out.

That one mission where you are alone with Winston and really understand the character so much more. Or the level where you are paired with Ray and Egon and are a part of their own banter. The level where you are alone with Ray. When you are alone with Venkman... then again when it's Ray Egon and Peter and then all four.

The way they designed those levels and that dialogue they really put you in GB1, interacting reactively with those specific characters. The decision to have Welsh completely silent was genius in my opinion. Having the guys react to what you do as opposed to what you say. You, the Rookie, could really be anyone.

Yeah you can blast through it in 12 hours(still a very long experience), but exploring every nook and cranny and getting all the dialogue took me 60 hrs. Imagine being in, actually in, GB1 for 12-60 hours. I say GB1 but it's more like GB1+GB2+Dan's original crazy draft script with the ghost realm, etc.

I have played through it often these past 14 years and to this day I still get dialogue that I'd not heard before.

I believe that attention to detail and immersion is why it's so loved. We (GB1&GB2 lovers) really will never get that again, again due to the death of Harold and the franchise having moved beyond those 4 guys.

[philmorgan81]

Between the two bad choices I prefer that Dana not be a Shandor.

I disagree with that. I think GB1, GB2 and GBTVG are a perfect trilogy. The river of slime related to the sloar, the library ghost Eleanor Twitty, how it links GB1 and GB2 together, etc.

And people can say what they want, I keep going back to this:

We will never have a GB1 immersion experience that is as close as GBTVG (due to Harold's death). Be it how you are teamed up with select GB's in singles and pairs, how they riff off of each other and you.... it's just so well thought out.

That one mission where you are alone with Winston and really understand the character so much more. Or the level where you are paired with Ray and Egon and are a part of their own banter. The level where you are alone with Ray. When you are alone with Venkman... then again when it's Ray Egon and Peter and then all four.

The way they designed those levels and that dialogue they really put you in GB1, interacting reactively with those specific characters. The decision to have Welsh completely silent was genius in my opinion. Having the guys react to what you do as opposed to what you say. You, the Rookie, could really be anyone.

Yeah you can blast through it in 12 hours(still a very long experience), but exploring every nook and cranny and getting all the dialogue took me 60 hrs. Imagine being in, actually in, GB1 for 12-60 hours. I say GB1 but it's more like GB1+GB2+Dan's original crazy draft script with the ghost realm, etc.

I have played through it often these past 14 years and to this day I still get dialogue that I'd not heard before.

I believe that attention to detail and immersion is why it's so loved. We (GB1&GB2 lovers) really will never get that again, again due to the death of Harold and the franchise having moved beyond those 4 guys.

Oh yeah the attention to detail in that game was awesome. To me Ghostbusters The Video Game will always be Ghostbusters 3. Hey I believe that the 2009 video game on all ports was so well received that is why we got to enjoy the IDW comic series. I have my doubts that we would have ever enjoyed that comics run if not for the success of the 2009 video game.

Even though the officials at Ghost Corps do not consider it canon, to me it will always be canon. To me the 2009 video game will always be the ideal Ghostbusters gaming experience.

[One time]

I disagree with that. I think GB1, GB2 and GBTVG are a perfect trilogy. The river of slime related to the sloar, the library ghost Eleanor Twitty, how it links GB1 and GB2 together, etc.

And people can say what they want, I keep going back to this:

We will never have a GB1 immersion experience that is as close as GBTVG (due to Harold's death). Be it how you are teamed up with select GB's in singles and pairs, how they riff off of each other and you.... it's just so well thought out.

That one mission where you are alone with Winston and really understand the character so much more. Or the level where you are paired with Ray and Egon and are a part of their own banter. The level where you are alone with Ray. When you are alone with Venkman... then again when it's Ray Egon and Peter and then all four.

The way they designed those levels and that dialogue they really put you in GB1, interacting reactively with those specific characters. The decision to have Welsh completely silent was genius in my opinion. Having the guys react to what you do as opposed to what you say. You, the Rookie, could really be anyone.

Yeah you can blast through it in 12 hours(still a very long experience), but exploring every nook and cranny and getting all the dialogue took me 60 hrs. Imagine being in, actually in, GB1 for 12-60 hours. I say GB1 but it's more like GB1+GB2+Dan's original crazy draft script with the ghost realm, etc.

I have played through it often these past 14 years and to this day I still get dialogue that I'd not heard before.

I believe that attention to detail and immersion is why it's so loved. We (GB1&GB2 lovers) really will never get that again, again due to the death of Harold and the franchise having moved beyond those 4 guys.

Oh yeah the attention to detail in that game was awesome. To me Ghostbusters The Video Game will always be Ghostbusters 3. Hey I believe that the 2009 video game on all ports was so well received that is why we got to enjoy the IDW comic series. I have my doubts that we would have ever enjoyed that comics run if not for the success of the 2009 video game.

Even though the officials at Ghost Corps do not consider it canon, to me it will always be canon. To me the 2009 video game will always be the ideal Ghostbusters gaming experience.

Amen to that. I'd even go as far as saying; it's the ideal Ghostbusters experience period... and sadly (in a way) will ever be, due to Harold.

[philmorgan81]

That is why I appreciate the love and attention that went into the game and I am equally grateful for the miracle that the game actually got made.